Roundup Of Google Blog Search Commentary

Below, a roundup of bloggers and others talking about the new Google Blog
Search service that’s been launched. For more background on the service, see our
Google
Launches Industrial Strength Blog Search
and
Thoughts On &
Poking At Google Blog Search
posts.


  • Google’s new blog search makes a great first impression
    has Robert Scoble
    doing an ego search for himself and finding it sucks because his blog isn’t
    tops. Except it is tops but shows "Velveetaland" as the domain. Why? Glitch,
    hijacking, I dunno. But the actual link does lead directly to his site. He
    loves the speed and the relevance when doing an advanced search for

    scoble PDC
    , sorted by date.

    The only "advanced" thing there really is that he set results to show 100
    listings rather than 10. Otherwise, it’s just a multiword query. FYI, use the
    preference options to set results to 100 results permanently. Bad news? That
    does it for ALL of Google and doesn’t let you have a sort by date preference,
    as I’ve written. Google Blog Search really needs its own preferences page just
    for that service, allowing sort by date as a lockdown option.

    More playing
    with Google blog search
    has him Robert playing more and liking Google more
    better, and


    Testing link search out on Google blog search
    especially in getting
    backlinks.
     


  • Google adds blog search
    from Dave Winer doesn’t seem happy you can get
    results in either RSS or Atom. Yeah, pick a format and go with it. Of course,
    if they picked Atom, he wouldn’t be happy. So no surprise they decided to
    offer them both. He’s also concerned that if he does a post without a title,
    Google doesn’t seem to "have it." I don’t see that. Here are

    results
    for his site. Here’s the first result:


    http://archive.scripting.com/2005/09/14#When:8:19:23AM

    46 minutes ago
    NPR has a podcast about the Roberts hearings. I caught a bit of it yesterday
    and
    it was really interesting. Surprisingly so.
    Scripting News – http://www.scripting.com/

    They’ve got the post — they just don’t have a title because the post
    doesn’t have a title. Solution? Give posts titles. But it may be he’s
    concerned that many of his posts don’t appear when compared to Google web
    search. My other article explains this is the memory problem — they only have
    info from March 2005 onward in Google blog search.
     


  • Google launches blog search – is this the death knell for Technorati, et. al?

    from Forrester’s Charlene Li comes out generally positive about the service.
    But the idea of Google stripping out "non-blog feeds" like weather and stock
    quote updates. Not what they tell us. Haven’t poked hard enough to test, but
    if it’s a feed, there’s a chance it’s in there. Only sites they know are in
    their hand-picked source list for Google News are potentially removed from
    Google Blog Search, we’ve been told.
     
  • Welcome to the
    Blogosphere, Google!
    from Technorati’s David Sifry doesn’t have him
    putting Technorati in a casket but instead saying the competition will make
    things better for everyone.
     

  • Google Blog Search is live
    from Technorati’s Niall Kennedy talks about
    blog search as a potential new testing ground for search marketers. Not
    really. It’s based off feeds, and the ranking is going to be much different
    than the full text indexing of web pages that web search uses. But then
    again, if you haven’t yet starting running a proper blog, time to start doing
    them. As I said at an SES conference recently, they’re the "acceptable" mirror
    site. IE, have a regular site and a blog, and that’s just fine to the search
    world, assuming they do different things. And you should, because as you can
    see, to play in blog search, you need a blog. An ordinary site doesn’t get in
    to have fun.
     

  • Google Blog Search reviewed
    at Blog Herald thinks the link counts suck
    compared to the competition. Chances are, this is because the Google blog
    "memory" stretches back only to March 2005, as I wrote. Similar criticism over
    size of coverage, and chances area again that history is the issue.
     

  • Google launches Blog Search
    at Six Apart, spotted
    via John Battelle,
    focuses more on Six Apart’s AtomStream service that’s in development, that
    flows out all the content of LiveJournal and TypePad content to any tool that
    wants them. Pinging and crawling might be eliminated if everyone just flowed
    out full information this way.

    Yes, except that blog/feed search services are increasingly encountering the
    same spam problems that web search has had to grapple with. Expect that if
    anyone can flow content, some are going to making use of this nice cloaking
    mechanism to be misleading.

    THAT’s why web search engines crawl. The idea of flowing information to them
    isn’t something they never thought off until now. They’ve simply learned not
    to trust what people might give to them. As blog spam continues to grow — IE,
    "fake" doorway page style blogs — the blog search world is going to learn in
    short order that flowing info may not work as well as they think.

    I really do hope some better solution will come about so people can feed
    content into the major services, rather than just sending URLs. Certainly
    Google’s Froogle has seemed successful on this front.
     


  • Google Launches Blogsearch
    from InsideGoogle posts thoughts here and finds
    that overall, it’s likely to pull people from other blog search services.
     
  • Google Blog Search Launched
    is discussion at Threadwatch.
     
  • Via Barry’s
    Search Engine Roundtable site, see also discussion at

    DigitalPoint Forums
    ,

    Cre8asite Forums
    and
    WebmasterWorld
    .
     


  • Google Blog Search Launched
    is discussion on our Search Engine Watch Forums.

    NEW ITEMS SINCE ORIGINAL POST
     


  • Google Launches a Blog Search
    from Tara at ResearchBuzz who likes somethings,
    hates others, but especially thinks the default should be by date. I’m with you,
    Tara — sort of. Problem for Google is that when you search by data, relevancy
    drops like made. Searches for [google] still bring back tons of junk/spam. Tara
    also details some of the URL switches used to get the number of results back,
    for those who want to dig really deep. She says site: works; I still find it
    does NOT.

    WAIT, MYSTERY SOLVED! I REALIZE IT WORKS IN COMBINATION WITH ANOTHER QUERY.
    In other words,

    site:napsterization.org
    brings back nothing but

    mary hodder -site:napsterization.org
    will work. Google web search used to
    not allow site: as a standalone search but that was changed a few months to a
    year ago, if I recall correctly. Blog search has yet to realize this and depends
    instead on blogurl: as the command.
     

  • Dear
    Google, Thank you for blog search
    has Jason Calacanis expecting blog search
    to show up on the Google home page. Yeah, maybe. More likely, I think you’ll see
    it combined with news, especially since there’s only so many buttons you can put
    up there. Note to Jason — no search engine wants to look like
    this,
    and people don’t see those tabs/links anyway as the article that link leads to
    explains.

    Jason also completely overlooks the fact that plenty of news search services
    already put great small and individual publishers into the results there
    alongside MSM — mainstream media or "traditional media." In fact, I’d wager the
    vast majority of news search sources in any major news search service are NOT
    traditional media outlets. So ease off the idea that this is a precursor to the
    big leveling of web society. Web search was already a leveler and remains so.

    Realistically, news and blogs go together as well as news and opinion go
    together. The two sides of the same coin and all that. Need that illustrated
    more. The new Memeorandum site does the blend well, as I
    explained
    yesterday.
     

  • Google
    Launches Blog Search
    from Mary Hodder who has done a great series on blog
    search recently finds an ego search for her name doesn’t get all references
    (it’s likely the memory problem mentioned above, Mary).

    She also doesn’t like that a serach for her own blog name bringing up her own
    pages over and over is annoying. Yep, and if if were web search, Google’s
    clustering (showing you only up to two pages from the same site per results
    page) would have solved this. No clustering for blog search. Easy workaround,
    however.

    napsterization -site:napsterization.org
    . There you go — your
    self-referential problem disposed of.

    She also notes no change in relevance when doing a link lookup and sorting by
    date or relevance. Betcha I know why. Google may simply not want to tell you
    what link it thinks has the most link juice flowing to a site.

    Overall, she thinks they’ve got a lot to learn about blog search. Probably, but
    it also sounds like that perhaps tailoring some of her regular searches with a
    few search commands might also get more of what she wants.

    NEW ITEMS SINCE LAST UPDATE ABOVE
     

  • One Service,
    Two Faces
    from Ken Yarmosh highlights how the Blogger version makes a search
    within and find all posts feature available for listings. You could do this with
    the Google version, just not as easily.
     

  • Google
    Introduces Blog Search
    from Tristan Louis wants to see one of the major
    search engines offer their own ping server. From talking with Google, they seem
    more behind the idea of supporting the development of
    FeedMesh
    as a solution.
     


  • Blog Search: Redirects and Indexing
    from the official Blogger blog, spotted

    via
    InsideGoogle, notes that the redirect page you see when clicking on a
    result in blog search will be going away, now that it is no longer needed to
    help protect the secrecy of the project.
     

  • After Just
    a Few Hours With Google Blog Search: Comments and Wishes
    from our own Gary
    Price has him giving a laundry list of wish, as well as showing how non-blog
    content is in the blog search engine and how SafeSearch fails to keep you
    safe.

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